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Lexixo13
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:44 pm Reply with quote
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http://www.amazon.com/Icon-Imogen-Heap-Frou/dp/B004D2GMRQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1292949410&sr=8-6

What is this all about? It seems like random songs from Details and Imegaphone out onto a cd.

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:43 pm Reply with quote
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Is it legit? Because, in all honesty, it doesn't look like so.

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James
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:44 pm Reply with quote
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I'm checking this out but odds are its NOT legit.

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:46 pm Reply with quote
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This is the record label supposedly issuing that album:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip-O_Records

The link to their website redirects to some other site, though.
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Lexixo13
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:25 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah it didn't seem legit which is why I posted it. Kinnda weird

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:49 pm Reply with quote
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It does look odd, but Icon Records does exist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon_Records

and it is a company of UMG, which also acquired Island Records, which released Details, so I wouldn't rule out that they somehow made a deal to release a compilation including iMegaphone material. And depending on her record contracts Immi (and Guy) might not have any control over reissues and repackaging of old material.

Actually, the choice of material is not bad, but what makes it odd is the combination of tracks from two such different albums.
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Lexixo13
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:51 pm Reply with quote
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Could be true. Still looks odd

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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:58 pm Reply with quote
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I'm hoping they've paid Jeremy Cowart for his photo too!

I've asked management for more info on this....

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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:14 am Reply with quote
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Never a huge fan of situations when record companies manage to release songs in such compilation fashion without the artist(s) themselves being involved.

I take it this is also why there is no material from SFY/Ellipse as Immi has much more control over these recordings.

If it generates new fans then at least that's a good thing and the best thing we could hope for out of this kind of stuff.
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:40 am Reply with quote
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More fans is sometimes a good thing Wink

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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:43 am Reply with quote
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I saw this today and I didn't know what it was. There's not any info on amazon's site about what they even are.

I don't think I will be purchasing this unless I know more about it...
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Energy
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:20 am Reply with quote
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Does seem a bit off - the artwork looks very cheap (just taking a default font and writing over jeremy cowart's photo)- song selection is a bit weird too. Quite a few retailers seem to know about the release.

Does seem very off that even the artist is unaware of the release. Weird.

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AutomaticTLC
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:56 am Reply with quote
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Oh no. Not the Icon series. Poor Immi. I hate these things. I made a little blog about what they do.

me wrote:
One of the major record labels started releasing some unauthorized Greatest Hits series called "ICONS" for a couple of their recording artists. It's a quick way for the labels to cash in and Erykah Badu was subject to one of these atrocities. She did an interview with Vibe a couple of weeks ago where she went through her entire discography and included a segment where she talked about a collaboration song she did with The Roots called "You Got Me".

When she recorded the song she didn't know that (then unknown neo-soul artist) Jill Scott originally recorded it and ?uestlove sent the track to Erykah to redo so she could be featured on The Roots album instead of Jill. She recorded it and Jill was upset, which made Erykah upset at ?uestlove for a bit.

Now, this record label puts out an Erykah Badu Icon album and they're so incompetent that they put Jill Scott's original demo version of "You Got Me" on ERYKAH BADU'S CD. So, Erykah is nowhere to be found on the track, it is just Jill Scott.

Badu said she called up Jill and they laughed about the situation. It's so sad and is just one of the many, many points that could be added to my collection of "why the music industry should be deconstructed and rebuilt".

No one knows what they're doing.

Also, I decided to download the Icons release out of curiosity (I was going to buy it, but decided not to support the record labels) and noticed that the engineers tried to get rid of the cuss words on the live version of "Tyrone" That is featured on the CD.

YOU CAN'T EDIT CUSS WORDS OUT ENTIRELY ON A LIVE RECORDING.

Yes, you can mute the main vocal track where Erykah is singing, but do you forget about the room microphones? The microphones that are picking up the reflections of the stage performance, the sound of the room, and the screaming fans? If you edit out a cuss word in the room microphone, the live performance will sound off, it will sound fake, because suddenly all of that activity of the natural reflections, reverberation and sound off of the arena is gone to get rid of one word. It is muted.

The engineers didn't mute the room microphones, which I think was a middle finger on their part to the labels for making them try and remove a word that didn't need to be removed in the first place. However, the result of the edit is that the word is still present in the song. It's attenuated immensely, but the word and the echo of the word off of the room is still there in the song.

And these are just two things that are wrong with one of the Icons CDs and major record labels.

This is all. x

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:51 am Reply with quote
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AutomaticTLC wrote:
Oh no. Not the Icon series. Poor Immi. I hate these things. I made a little blog about what they do.

me wrote:
One of the major record labels started releasing some unauthorized Greatest Hits series called "ICONS" for a couple of their recording artists. It's a quick way for the labels to cash in and Erykah Badu was subject to one of these atrocities. She did an interview with Vibe a couple of weeks ago where she went through her entire discography and included a segment where she talked about a collaboration song she did with The Roots called "You Got Me".

When she recorded the song she didn't know that (then unknown neo-soul artist) Jill Scott originally recorded it and ?uestlove sent the track to Erykah to redo so she could be featured on The Roots album instead of Jill. She recorded it and Jill was upset, which made Erykah upset at ?uestlove for a bit.

Now, this record label puts out an Erykah Badu Icon album and they're so incompetent that they put Jill Scott's original demo version of "You Got Me" on ERYKAH BADU'S CD. So, Erykah is nowhere to be found on the track, it is just Jill Scott.

Badu said she called up Jill and they laughed about the situation. It's so sad and is just one of the many, many points that could be added to my collection of "why the music industry should be deconstructed and rebuilt".

No one knows what they're doing.

Also, I decided to download the Icons release out of curiosity (I was going to buy it, but decided not to support the record labels) and noticed that the engineers tried to get rid of the cuss words on the live version of "Tyrone" That is featured on the CD.

YOU CAN'T EDIT CUSS WORDS OUT ENTIRELY ON A LIVE RECORDING.

Yes, you can mute the main vocal track where Erykah is singing, but do you forget about the room microphones? The microphones that are picking up the reflections of the stage performance, the sound of the room, and the screaming fans? If you edit out a cuss word in the room microphone, the live performance will sound off, it will sound fake, because suddenly all of that activity of the natural reflections, reverberation and sound off of the arena is gone to get rid of one word. It is muted.

The engineers didn't mute the room microphones, which I think was a middle finger on their part to the labels for making them try and remove a word that didn't need to be removed in the first place. However, the result of the edit is that the word is still present in the song. It's attenuated immensely, but the word and the echo of the word off of the room is still there in the song.

And these are just two things that are wrong with one of the Icons CDs and major record labels.

This is all. x

Signed,
A Very Angry Sound Engineer


lol, nice review
i didnt know about these icon editions
but if u say they've put a demo version...i'll be looking forward to that Razz
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info about the icon release, in case anyone's still interested.

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