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| blissfullychaoticgirl |
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| lovehound |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:30 am |
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blissfullychaoticgirl wrote:
ok, right off the bat, this seems rude to me. i know nothing of the circumstances or pressures he might be feeling, but to accept an invitation to tour and then to cancel to finish an album seems rude. sorry if this makes me sound/seem like an asshole. i'm sure i wouldn't care if it wasn't immi he cancelled on. |
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| SarahSD |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:07 am |
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| That doesn't seem very professional. He sure could have used the exposure here, too. |
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| Aloiv |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:50 am |
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| You don't know the circumstances behind it though. Maybe if he didn't finish it, he wouldn't have another chance to put it out... or something like that |
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| blissfullychaoticgirl |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:02 am |
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| We really do not know the circumstances but I would realy like to hear them. Short of being unable at another time to finish would seem a bit rude. |
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| lovehound |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:13 am |
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Aloiv wrote: You don't know the circumstances behind it though. Maybe if he didn't finish it, he wouldn't have another chance to put it out... or something like that
be that as it may, i'm sure he'll be touring to support his own album, you know, once it's finished. |
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| samehands |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:01 am |
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That's disappointing. I was really looking forward to seeing him  |
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| xanthuos |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:50 am |
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| Well, that basically sealed the deal for me...I don't think I'll be purchasing any of his music or supporting his career in any fashion. To cancel a North American tour and leave Immi's people scrambling for a new opening act this late in the game...to finish an album? It doesn't particularly matter the circumstances on the production of the album - I'll consider this an unprofessional gesture period. |
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| lovehound |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:27 am |
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xanthuos wrote: Well, that basically sealed the deal for me...I don't think I'll be purchasing any of his music or supporting his career in any fashion. To cancel a North American tour and leave Immi's people scrambling for a new opening act this late in the game...to finish an album? It doesn't particularly matter the circumstances on the production of the album - I'll consider this an unprofessional gesture period.
ditto. thank you for being more eloquent than i was, and for saying so well how i feel about the whole thing. this is an unprofessional move to the nth degree, and the nonchalant attitude on the website about it is highly annoying. i feel immi was giving him a real boost by asking him to tour with her, and placing a lot of faith in him; for him to cancel this late in the game, as you note, reeks of disrespect.
good luck to you out there, pal. here's another person who won't be buying anything of yours. |
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| Aloiv |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:36 am |
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Geez guys, aren't you going a little overboard?
For all you know, this might have been already arranged with Immi unknown to us, and also that you have to realize that music, besides from being an art, is business. Yes, concerts help promote an artist, but it won't do much good if you have nothing to promote! Personally, if I was in his position, I would much rather have a product out there to show before I go all willy nilly with a tour! |
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| xanthuos |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:55 am |
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Aloiv wrote: Geez guys, aren't you going a little overboard?
For all you know, this might have been already arranged with Immi unknown to us, and also that you have to realize that music, besides from being an art, is business. Yes, concerts help promote an artist, but it won't do much good if you have nothing to promote! Personally, if I was in his position, I would much rather have a product out there to show before I go all willy nilly with a tour!
Well, I can understand what you've said...but knowing a little about this "business" they call music, I'd rather an artist I represent go out without a new album to promote on a North American tour with an act who sold out many dates on her last tour...than have no major tour to open for when they DO have the album. After all, his last album The Tourniquet was only released in the United States in February of this year.
Speak For Yourself was released stateside November 1st, 2005...and more than 6 months later was her major North American outing in April & May to support the album. This tour, a year later, is also practically in support of that album and to continue to "break" her in the US.
A major North American tour comprised of 28 dates in major markets isn't what I'd call "willy nilly"  It would make sense for Magnet & his organization to have taken this tremendous opportunity to get exposure with North American audiences (because I assure you, I hadn't heard of him prior to the announcement that he was opening the tour), promoting The Tourniquet...and then go finish the next album to have something to promote when he returns to the US in markets that are already familiar to him.
Just my $0.02...I hope the $XX,XXX I gave Belmont University for a major in the Music Business didn't go to waste!
Also, please make note that I'm not personally "bashing" Magnet or his music. From what I've listened to since learning of him, I like it. I just think this is an unwise career move. |
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| Travellerman |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:04 am |
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| "Last minute cancellation karma"... |
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| James |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:50 am |
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Guys - I think you're all going totally overboard about Magnet cancelling! This kind of thing happens all the time, artists often have to pull tours in order to finish recording albums - after all, record companies do have to have release schedules and artists have to fit into these if you're signed to a label!
While it's disappointing because Magnet does sound pretty cool, it's not the end of the world. As is stands Immi doesn't need tour support in the USA to sell tickets and fill venues, so it's not as if she was relying on Magnet to do this and there will always be a ton of great acts lining up to support Immi, so I'm sure someone cool will be found to replace Magnet.
Oh and to clarify - we did know about this already and arrangements are being made for US tour support... |
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| blissfullychaoticgirl |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:10 pm |
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| Well then, as long as all is well. I hope all goes well for everyone, I'm going to see Immi so she can bring whoever she wants or nobody. I have waited a long time for this. |
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| xanthuos |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:01 pm |
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James wrote: Guys - I think you're all going totally overboard about Magnet cancelling! This kind of thing happens all the time, artists often have to pull tours in order to finish recording albums - after all, record companies do have to have release schedules and artists have to fit into these if you're signed to a label!
While it's disappointing because Magnet does sound pretty cool, it's not the end of the world. As is stands Immi doesn't need tour support in the USA to sell tickets and fill venues, so it's not as if she was relying on Magnet to do this and there will always be a ton of great acts lining up to support Immi, so I'm sure someone cool will be found to replace Magnet.
Oh and to clarify - we did know about this already and arrangements are being made for US tour support...
I assumed you guys did, James. I don't think it would have been announced on Magnet's website without at least a phone call to you prior! However, I've rarely seen an act cancel a tour this close to the start to "finish an album." Yes, labels have release schedules...but is Magnet signed to a deal or is his arrangement simply licensing the album to Filter US, much like Immi does with Sony BMG?
I suppose for me, it just all boils down to how long ago you guys were apprised of this development.
Now I can't wait to find out who the new tour support is! |
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| venusunfolding |
| Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:13 pm |
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| James is right. Immi had to pull out of her tour with Tori awhile back. Stuff happens. What is important is that Immi's still touring, and we get to see her. |
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| Fireball |
| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:31 am |
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venusunfolding wrote: James is right. Immi had to pull out of her tour with Tori awhile back. Stuff happens. What is important is that Immi's still touring, and we get to see her.
Except that Immi never fully committed to that tour. It was never confirmed on this site. So... not really the same.
I'm disappointed about Magnet because I like what I've heard of his stuff. But it's also exciting to think that there will be some other fresh talent out there that will get a shot to open for Imogen. |
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| Aloiv |
| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:05 am |
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Fireball wrote:
I'm disappointed about Magnet because I like what I've heard of his stuff. But it's also exciting to think that there will be some other fresh talent out there that will get a shot to open for Imogen. |
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